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Tuesday 10/27/09

Climate Notes From Tuesday

One element that came out of Tuesday's hearing with the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee hearing is the idea that the Environmental Protection Agency could use new legislation for the major greenhouse-gas emitting industries, yet want to preserve the authority of the Clean Air Act for other industries.

Noting that the climate bill cap is not "economywide," EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson put forward the idea that "There are important carbon-emission sources that can be addressed through Clean Air Act regulations."

That really opens a whole can of worms over the notion that even if an industry, such as agriculture, is exempted from climate legislation, could the EPA still bring the stick of the Clean Air Act against those businesses?

It was just one of the various elements from Tuesday's hearing, but something to pursue.

From the DTN webinar Tuesday on the climate bill came the question of what happens to companies that exceed their pollution cap? It's a good question, one I haven't examined well. I've looked mostly at how the bill would affect agriculture. I'm going to have to ask just what are the possible ramifications to companies that could not comply with emission controls.

Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, also wrote a letter on Monday to Environment and Public Works Chairman Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., and Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., questioning the wisdom of unilateral action on climate change, but noted that if the Senate is going to consider a bill "it should at least share the economic burden equitably across all states and regions of our country."

Kerry highlighted in his statements that the U.S. risks losing stature in the world over the failure to address climate change. One of the problems globally is all countries are afraid of being non-competitive in the business environment.

"Everybody is waiting for the next person to move," Kerry said.

Grassley points out the allocation provisions for pollution allowances gives a share of allowances to a utility regardless of the compliance obligation. Grassley argues that is "in effect a transfer of wealth to the East and West coasts at the expense of other regions, like the Midwest, which will already be shouldering a larger share of the burden under the proposed system. Surely you can recognize that this provision will be unacceptable to senators on both sides of the aisles that represent regions on the losing end of this highly questionable policy and it must be changed for the sake of fairness and credibility."

Grassley's letter again emphasized the Republican argument that a cap-and-trade system "is in effect a national energy tax and emissions allowances represent a portion, but not all of the cost of this tax to the American people. Therefore, most, if not all, of the revenue generated by this tax in the form of emissions allowances should be given back to the American people in proportion to what they were forced to pay in the first place."

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Posted at 7:52PM CDT 10/27/09 by Chris Clayton
Comments (5)
Chris: For those companies that cannot or do not meet their prescribed emissions levels, then they would purchase carbon credits in Chicago. The problem is this -- China and India have no intention in participating in the whole climate change process; therefore whatever we do, especially looking down the road as their economies expand, is going to be a trivial amount and will have virtually no impact on CO2 emissions around the globe. This is not about CO2 emissions, Chris, it is about controlling production of everything in the economy, including beans, corn, and livestock.
Posted by tom vogel at 10:49PM CDT 10/27/09
It would be very easy to put an import tax on products that produce carbon in order to "level" the playing field. For many years we didn't even trade with China because they were Communist and still don't trade with Cuba so carbon could be easily tariffed. "Free trade" has caused us to lose our control to the Chinese in many ways but just because "they do it" doesn't make it morally correct.
Posted by Jay Mcginnis at 6:27AM CDT 10/28/09
Jim: I very much respect your comments. However, many of the items that we import are components that our major manufacturers like Caterpillar and GE need to produce their final products, like bulldozers and locomotive engines. If you place a tariff on imported components, then that only penalizes the US producers trying to compete in the world markets by using imported components. Free trade has enable many of the nation's great companies, like John Deere, to prosper in the global economy. Furthermore, we can't risk losing those Asian markets, both for their product demand and their investing in our debt-driven bonds.
Posted by tom vogel at 8:07AM CDT 10/28/09
Tom: Now let me try to understand this. Are we unable to manufacture the parts you talk about in the US? Seems like the tariff also penalizes labor by allowing the corporations to take their work to other countries where labor is a few cents a day and where there are no labor or pollution regulations like we have. How can our economy not be in debt when people have lost their jobs to foreign workers? "Free trade" has sold us out to the lowest bidder and corporate America achieved this through lobbies by buying Washington. Corporate America has become "too big to fail" so now we have corporate hand outs to maintain the shell of what is left from greed, free trade and depleted resources,,, a great hangover from failed politics of the past 20 plus years, stared by Reagan . We need to take care of ourselves first, keep jobs here and get off foreign oil.
Posted by Jay Mcginnis at 7:35AM CDT 10/29/09
Jay: You make some excellent points. We can indeed and in many cases do make most if not all of the parts necessary to produce manufactured products in this country. The problem is we can't produce them competitively. The outcome would be a Chevy truck that costs $80,000 or a John Deere tractor that costs $500,000. This would make it impossible for US farmers to compete then. Jay, in a global economy, there is "nowhere to hide." If our country's farmers and business people tried to rely solely on US-manufactured goods, many of them uncompetitive in price to world suppliers, then we couldn't compete in the areas in which we do excel - food products, pharmaceuticals, information technology, specialty manufacturing and alike. Remember something very important...these manufactured products all become inputs to everything else we do in this country, and if those input costs increase, then that raises the cost of everything else we produce. Then we would be competitive in nothing...including food production. World consumers would vote with their feet and their dollars and leave us in a sad predicament of high-cost production and no one around the globe willing to buy anything we produce.
Posted by tom vogel at 10:18AM CDT 10/29/09
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